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stolen teachings part V
I remember hearing once that Dane Cook steals his bits from George Carlin. I not sure how true that is; but i imagine this happens consistently in the world of stand up. So I asked my friend, Joe Anderson to share his thoughts on the subject. Some of it is really funny and the choreography of the video shoot is maybe even more impressive timing camera moves so that it looks like a car disappears and reappears. Then Carlos Mencia did a spoof of Criss Angel Mind Freak and Mencia, who has already taken a lot of heat for supposedly stealing jokes, has been lambasted for this, his latest atrocity. Both basically make the same joke, which is the obvious joke to make, the exact same joke I made the very first time I saw David Blaine real program. I just never made the video.
It happens in the movies all the time. All the sudden there will be multiple asteroid movies, or animated movies about bugs, or serial killer movies, or movies about strong willed teachers who are going to seriously take on their struggling but inevitably awesome group of kids.
There are themes and stories and jokes and observations and characters that are fairly universal, so when they show up in multiple places, it doesn really surprise me or offend me.
Now Carlos perhaps most famously and others, in my opinion, probably are actually stealing other people material in some cases and there is no disputing the level of impropriety. However I never assume that first. Parallel thinking is more often the plausible explanation. Kind of the essential joke which was to be made about the situation involving the possibility of Mexican workers helping to build the wall.
I a big fan of Steve teachings and in all honesty, an even bigger fan of Rob if for no other reason than I been exposed to so much more of it but I also a fan of the people Rob "steals" from. Now Rob makes a very concerted effort to cite his references and Steve does too. Neither of them want to take credit for something they didn create but there also value in hearing or reading something, wrestling with it, working with it and then mining it for gold that can be repurposed and repackaged. It just a concise way of saying something complex. Just happens to also be something it good to be reminded of at least every hundred years or so.
And I do think intent matters.
That alone caught me off guard. I mean, I really don like fist bumping anyway and I was pretty sure I didn want to do it at church. But more importantly, I had already put my hand out. I had clearly established that we would be SHAKING hands. So now I was supposed to convert? At church? So, I ended up looking him in the eye, saying "I glad you here" and I shook his fist.
One day after the very first time I told that joke I saw a Demetri Martin special where he told a joke about a relatively similar situation. I knew he hadn stolen my joke because I think I would noticed him at my show and I hadn stolen his because I never seen that bit before. The simple fact is that situation was not unique. It relatively universal as our hand gesture salutations evolve. We both had different takes on it but there were definitely similarities.
When you have pastors, all human, all with human brains and all using the same book as the "umbrella text", the idea that there would be no overlapping of sermons would be more unbelievable than the fact that there is. When you have comedians, all human, all with human brains and human experiences you can expect some of the same things to happen to some of them. Hopefully, because we humans are all at least a little bit unique, the way we describe them and deliver the words will allow different versions of similar stories to coexist.
Finally,[url=http://www.floware.fr]www.floware.fr[/url], if something is knowingly repurposed(let say "stolen" for effect), it significance in the "whole" is perhaps the most important to me.
Vanilla Ice and The Verve wouldn have been sued for sampling Queen and the Rolling Stones respectively if the sample wasn by far the most memorable and significant part of their songs. I sure Vanilla Ice and The Verve also used some words that have been used in other people songs but that wasn at issue because their reuse was expected and insignificant and unrelated to their use in other people songs.

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